Concrete!!!! Concrete???? :-0
Jonathan tells me that the mistake I made backing Zippy was to ride him on a soft surface. He says that if I had done it on concrete that he would have had more sense than to buck and put himself at risk. Well all I can say is - rather him than me :-0 ! Boy is he confident. He is quiet with the horses but utterly dominant. It's clear that they understand that he will take no nonsense at all and that they have no option but to do as they are told. But all the horses there were relaxed and happy, so they aren't feeling too pressured.
I watched him long rein a 3 year old who had been unhandled until 5 days ago. Then he long reined him up the road around the block, and back into his stable in an American barn. Then he took off the side reins and long reins, put on a headcollar and without shutting the door he vaulted onto him sidesaddle and began patting him all over while he sat there. He says he will have a saddle on him tomorrow and do the same, and be riding him in another couple of days.
He says he can take Zippy tomorrow because a stable came free yesterday as he was hoping. So Zippy is going tomorrow. Allan is so relieved, he doesn't trust me not to get back on him again. In fact he is so determined that he's not going to let me get back on him again that he has insisted on paying for Jonathan. I'm not arguing!
I was too lazy to ride this morning so no-one has done any work. I have booked a cross country schooling session tomorrow for Jazz where my aim is simply for us to enjoy ourselves.
It's very clear to me that Jazz has not only done grid jumping before, but completely enjoyed it (probably loose schooled in Holland, which I know they do with very young horses over there). Unfortunately, while that means he jumps brilliantly in a grid when his placement at the fence is set for him, it has not transferred to jumping single fences or related distances without placing poles, which I now need him to do.
I have the impression that he has learnt to jump with a "crutch" and now finds it more than usually difficult to jump without one. I've been aware for a long time that pure showjumpers in the UK tend not to use grids, and I'm thinking that at last I have found out why - that some horses actually find it more difficult to give them up than if they had never had them in the first place. I think that Jazz is one of those, he got set in a model that jumping did not need him to use his brain to work out where to take off, so now he finds it hard to be asked to do just that. I don't think that the answer for him lies in more grids, which he finds ridiculously easy, both mentally and physically, but in single and related distance fences which are small enough for him to get his stride wrong without it being a disaster or inviting a run out. So that will be our approach for a few days and we'll see how we get on.
C

7 Comments:
Concrete? Yeah, only if you too are made out of concrete. I have never heard of such a thing. Then again, I do not make my living backing horses. Better Johnathan than me is all I can say.
The domination thing will give a horse like Zip confidence. When all he has to worry about is himself and not what that person is doing, he will settle in pretty quickly.
Kenny does a bit of the "slap them all over" stuff and often makes all kinds of unsettling moves on them once he's in the saddle. The idea is to get them used to all the things that happen if a rider loses his balance or panics if the horse acts a little spooky.
It would be great if you could sit in on some of the Zip sessions to watch. I am sure it's going to be very interesting.
Grids are good if you can use them to set up all the kinds of problems a horse runs into jumping single fences. Short distances, long distances, uneven strides...etc. Trouble is, it takes a master to know how to set up all the "questions." I think the idea of using poles as a crutch to start off with and then taking them away once Jazz gets more confident will help. And, by all means, use the little fences at awkward combinations.
Even when Russell was competing at the 3'6" classes, we spent most of our schooling little things just to build the basics, including teaching him what to do if he came in "wrong" to a fence. (Bless his heart, I took him wrong too many times to count and he learned to save us both.) Once the horse begins to believe he can get over, that's when you have the jumper worth his weight and more in gold!!
And remember too, even in the single fences, include combintations of things like verticals to spreads and vice versa. Give him puzzles to solve and the sure chance of success to build his confidence.
And, above all....do not jump on concrete!!! Jeez......
does the man ride in seriously thick padding all roudn then? mad... but if he gets the job done, and it's his bones, i suppose....
as for training jumping, i really no nowt about it but that sounds like a logical thought - the learning by rote theory, which is all very well but doesn't stand you in good stead in the long run..
This guy sounds very interesting! It would be fascinating to watch him with the horses. There is so much in an attitude and horses as well as other animals know when the boss is around.
Allan is certainly letting you know that he is relieved! By the way, do thank him for making us the foot stand for Tetley. It is indispensible!
What is an American barn verses a British barn?
ML
He sounds great..if a bit mad!
I know John had a real difficult horse that was a terrible bucker.They worked him in deep ploughed fields for weeks and he's been a star ever since..but concrete:0
But I reckon that attitude is exactly what Zippy boy is needing...OOOhh I cant wait to hear how it goes with him!Its great he can take him so quickly cos im sure you would be tempted to try again.;)
Are you going to watch or just let him get on with it?
I cant comment on the jumping as dont know enough myself but pretty much every horse John has had from Holland has been loose jumped.
Nicola
Concrete blimey he must have some trust in his own ability if he will do that. He sounds just the job.
I have great belief in loose schooling over grids. If a youngster fiddles around with striding it can unbalance the rider and scare the horse. I am intriged why showjumpers in this country dont like them unless they dont like horses who can think for themselves
Anne
I think you've hit the nail on the head Anne. The pro showjumpers want the horse to do what it's told, not think for itself.
Translation US/UK for ML :-)
American barn - stalls down either side of a barn with a corridor up the middle, called "American Barn" here because we copied it from you :-) In the UK, a "barn" is a building for storing hay/straw/stuff and for housing animals. I ride in mine. "Stall" in US-speak is "stable" in UK, as you know from me having kittens when you told me Tetley was in a stall 24/7. A stall in the UK is a narrow area where a horse stays tied up all the time and can only lie down and stand up. Any more to add folks?
I thought you'd all be as stunned as me about the concrete. I think now that he has met him that Jonathan may have changed his mind! More later but I have to go out right now.
C
there,s a stables near us that still has, and uses, stalls. mind, i don't think for one minute the horses are in 24/7. chap is of travelling stock, deals, drives. horses ok. they also run a tack/feed/clothing store from there that is really popular. if you're ever up this way, marylou ...
also, i rather think the buckingham palace stables still use stalls?...
Post a Comment
<< Home